Re: [AG-GOuFP] Mario Draghi könnten die Anleihen ausgehen

[David Finsterwalder <d.finsterwalder AT gmail.com>]

Hey Patrik,

 

Welche Begrenzung sollte es denn geben? 

Siehe:

1. http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Geldordnung_und_Finanzpolitik/ThemaKreditbegrenzung

2. http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/AG_Geldordnung_und_Finanzpolitik/ThemaEigenkapital 

 

KREDIT im ursprünglichen Sinne des Wortes! Die ZBs sind "knausrig" was sie als Sicherheiten akzeptieren und eine solide geführte Bank ist das auch. Nach dieser Logik hätte es die ganze Finanzkrise nicht geben können. Da waren es ja nicht mal unbesicherte sondern schlecht besicherte (subprime) Kredite.

Genau dieser Mythos vom Geld aus dem Nichts kommt aus mangelhafter Beachtung des Schuldrechts!  

Dieser Fehler ist nach der Nicht-Ergodizität in meinen Augen der größte Fehler in der Ökonomie! 

John Steuart:

https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/steuart/book4.htm

Many political writers in treating of credit, represent it as being of a very mysterious nature; owing its establishment to a confidence not easily accounted for, and disappearing from the slightest unfavourable circumstances.

That credit, in its fancy, is of a very delicate nature, I willingly allow. as also that we have many examples which confirm the sentiments, of those who believe it to contain, in itself, something very mysterious: but this proves no more, than that, in such cases, credit (as I consider it, and as it will appear really to be) has not been properly established. The cause of confidence has had nothing in it but opinion, and when this is the case, credit is but a shadow; and like a thin vapour, it may be dissipated by the smallest breath of wind.

They all agree that credit is no more than confidence, but they do not examine how this confidence is to be established on a solid foundation.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/steuart/book4_2.htm

When paper is issued by a bank for no value received, the security of such paper stands upon the original capital of the bank alone; whereas when it is issued for value received, that value is the security on which it immediately stands, and the bank stock is, properly speaking, only subsidiary.

I have dwelt the longer upon this circumstance, because many, who are unacquainted with the nature of banks, have a difficulty to comprehend how they should ever be at a loss for money, as they have a mint of their own, which requires nothing but paper and ink to create millions. But if they consider the principles of banking, they will find that every note issued for value consumed, instead of value received and preserved, is neither more or less, than a partial spending either of their capital, or profits on the bank. Is not this the effect of the expence of their management? Is not this expence paid in their notes? But did ever any body imagine that this expence did not diminish the profits of banking? Consequently, such expence may exhaust these profits, if carried far enough; and if carried still farther, will diminish the capital of the banking stock.

Der gute Mann beschreibt hier 1767 schön warum es zur subprime Krise kommen musste. "Geld aus dem Nichts" oder auch nur "Geld aus scheiss assets" killt die "proper" assets der Bank. Heute nur der Unterschied, dass man die Verluste sozialisiert hat. Abgeschrieben ist da viel aber immer noch nicht. 

Lesetipp zum Thema:

http://www.amazon.de/Allgemeine-Theorie-Wirtschaft-Band-Schul%C3%B6konomik/dp/3161490096
http://www.amazon.de/Eigentum-Zins-Geld-Ungel%C3%B6ste-Wirtschaftswissenschaft/dp/3895188441/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424554158&sr=1-5

In "Eigentum Zins und Geld" steht aber auch viel Müll. Heinsohn ist manchmal übelst schlampig. Hab mal Quellen geprüft: http://melethrons-wastebook.blogspot.de/2011/07/preview-zur-artikelserie-uber-die.html

Und jetzt die große Preisfrage. Wenn die EZB doch gerade "Geld druckt". Warum kommt es zur Deflation und nicht zur Inflation?!


Grüße
David