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- From: "marc" <marc AT merkstduwas.de>
- To: "Metagovernment Project" <start AT metagovernment.org>
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- Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 08:12:06 +0200
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Hi all,
With regards to your little 'misinterpretation' where to locate Vilfredo in the process, I would like to invite you to think about a 'classification' schema for our projects/tools/concepts.
IMHO we are all pointing into the same direction, but on different tracks. That's a good thing, as long as all tracks are connected to eachother in some way ;o) To make this connectivity easier and more intuitive, it may be helpfull to have a kind of classification to put the projects/tools/concepts on.
My very rough understanding of our domain is the one below. Please feel free to correct and enhance my very first draft:
http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/Decision-Making-Standard
Decision-Making (Willensbildung) as the overall social and political process could be devided into to following areas:
1) Information Gathering
2) Opinion-Forming
2.1) brainstorming
2.2) discussion
3) Decision Forming
3.1) voting
Once we agreed on such schema, it may be easier to identify the differences and the similarities of the projects/tools/concepts. And yes of course, it is a many-to-many relation between projects/tools/concepts and schema category.
What do you think?
Cheers
marc
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Allan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 9:36 PM
To: Metagovernment Project ; Piraten AGMeinungsfindungstool
Subject: [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting
Sorry Pietro, You're right, Vilfredo's not for brainstorming.
It's for opinion formation and decision more than ideation.
Pietro Speroni di Fenizio said:
As the creator of Vilfredo I just would like to say that I disagree
with it being viewed as a brainstorming medium. If I wanted to make a
brainstorming system I would do a completely different system. No need
to use Pareto Front, go through iterations, find a consensus...
It is a decision making system that works for specific type of
questions for groups with 4-15 people.
Cheers,
Pietro
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