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- From: Michael Allan <mike AT zelea.com>
- To: Start/Metagov <start AT metagovernment.org>, AG Meinungsfindungstool <ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
- Subject: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Classifying the tools
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:40:15 -0400
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Hi Marc,
> Decision-Making (Willensbildung) as the overall social and political
> process could be devided into to following areas:
>
> 1) Information Gathering
>
> 2) Opinion-Forming
> 2.1) brainstorming
> 2.2) discussion
>
> 3) Decision Forming
> 3.1) voting
I agree with Thomas that voting can be useful in opinion formation.
Also drafting. I added those, and made some minor clarifications:
http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/Decision-Making-Standard
Please correct me where I'm wrong.
> My intention is to classify the tools - not data, information,
> people or discussions. So it's more about the question "What's that
> tool for?" that's to be answered. And to be able to classify tools,
> we need some kind of schema, I think.
Technically I think Votorola fits here (for reasons i to iv):
2) Opinion-Forming
* Discussion / position forming
(i) Structural backbone to enable large-scale discussion
(ii) Difference bridging to rationalize discussion
* Expression of opinion content, as by drafting
(iii) Recombinant text for freedom of expression
* Discovery and expression of opinion form/shape, as by polling
or voting
(iv) Votespace to show macro/micro-structure of consensus and
dissensus, as they form.
But definitely not here:
3) Decision Forming
Votorola expresses no formal decisions and was not really designed for
that purpose. Formal decisions tend to be closely connected with
power (force and threat of force), and I think opinion formation ought
to be free of that. I agree with Daniel on this point.
But these are just my own views. Hopefully we can still interconnect
tools and projects to *some* degree, despite differences.
Michael
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, (fortgesetzt)
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, marc, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, Paul Nollen, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, marc, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, Pietro Speroni di Fenizio, 15.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, marc, 16.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, Pietro Speroni di Fenizio, 18.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (WorkingGroup) - Next Meeting, marc, 16.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, Pietro Speroni di Fenizio, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, Alexander Praetorius, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, marc, 12.10.2012
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Classifying the tools, Michael Allan, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, Thomas von der Elbe, 12.10.2012
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Pirate Party Germany - "Opinion Forming Tool" (Working Group) - Next Meeting, Alexander Praetorius, 12.10.2012
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