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AW: [Int-koordination] [pp-eu] [pp-eu.council] [pp-eu.board] Complaint for the upcoming council meeting of PPEU


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  • From: "Thomas Gaul" <thomas.gaul AT pp-international.net>
  • To: "'Muriel Rovira Esteva'" <muriel AT pirata.cat>
  • Cc: "'PPEU coordination group'" <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>, "'PPEU Board'" <pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net>, "'Internationale Koordination'" <int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>, "'Council of the European Pirate Party'" <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-international.net>
  • Subject: AW: [Int-koordination] [pp-eu] [pp-eu.council] [pp-eu.board] Complaint for the upcoming council meeting of PPEU
  • Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 00:45:34 +0200
  • Authentication-results: mail.intern.piratenpartei.de (MFA); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=pp-international.net

Dear Muriel,

 

If you say so, I will follow your advice.

 

The proposal will be presented to the Council in time, using Vote-IT.

 

And on another issue, which parties are “accredited” atm. Think that might be of interest as these mailing-lists we write to deem to have all delegates on it. If not, the board should have addressed the admins for it to just add those who are new etc.

 

Enjoy the night until the meeting will start.

 

And I would even recommend to send an additional email to board’s channels with all the changes being around and all the hints you can give.

 

Best regards

 

Thomas

 

Von: Muriel Rovira Esteva [mailto:muriel AT pirata.cat]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Mai 2017 00:39
An: Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT pp-international.net>
Cc: PPEU coordination group <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>; Muriel Rovira Esteva <muriel AT pirata.cat>; PPEU Board <pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net>; Internationale Koordination <int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>; Council of the European Pirate Party <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-international.net>
Betreff: Re: [pp-eu] [pp-eu.council] [Int-koordination] [pp-eu.board] Complaint for the upcoming council meeting of PPEU

 

Dear Thomas,

I think that it's better (for transparency and for record keeping) that the proposals coming from a member are put forward by their delegates and not the Board.

I'm afraid many registered delegates are not on any of these mailing lists, so they may not be able to follow what's going on. Therefore, it's better if all the formal discussions and proposals take place on the VoteIT meeting and not on other channels.

Greetings,

          Muriel

 

 

2017-05-26 0:04 GMT+02:00 Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT pp-international.net>:

Dear Muriel,

thank you for this.

As for "the additional round" the previous email had been an official
motion to the PPEU-Council on behalf of the PPDE delegaates, despite the
wording.

If there is the need for PPDE to do it within the tool "Vote-IT" and you
say so we will do so.

Thank you for your efforts.

Best regards

Thomas

Am 25.05.2017 um 23:58 schrieb Muriel Rovira Esteva:
> Dear Thomas,
>
> Thank you for your suggestion. The system has already a built in Support
> contact form, so I've added my email to it in order to receive any messages
> sent there, and I also added a small note in the welcome page so that
> people will see it even if they can't register. I've tried it and it worked
> well, please let me know if you run into any problem with it.
>
> Regarding the election of a new board, right now the agenda item is there
> for formal reasons, but of course it's useless because we didn't receive
> any nomination on time. According to our statutes, in order to be able to
> nominate candidates "(7) The Council may decide on additional rounds of
> voting and the admission of new candidates, if a position could not be
> filled."
>
> It is my understanding and suggestion that, as soon as we have carried out
> the basic procedural decisions (chairs, agenda, quorum), that we should
> propose to the Council to approve an additional round of admission of
> candidates. This can be proposed under the agenda item "Other motions", if
> you want, or under "Election of the new board". It would be great if PPDE
> makes that motion so that the Council can decide on it.
>
> Greetings,
>
>          Muriel
>
>
> 2017-05-25 22:41 GMT+02:00 Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de>:
>
>> Dear Muriel,
>>
>>
>>
>> thank you for this. Please add an email address plus text for the public
>> on the main page so if they are interested to follow the meeting have a
>> possibility to contact you (or others) for adding them in if they have
>> problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am now in the system. But I miss the opportunity for the council to
>> “reopen the call for candidates” as the council has to decide on it,
>> according to the statutes.
>>
>>
>>
>> That very decision has to be on there somewhere. If not this will be the
>> request to add this as a motion on behalf of PPDE to the PPEU-Council.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>

>> *Von:* pp-eu [mailto:pp-eu-bounces AT lists.pp-international.net] *Im
>> Auftrag von *Muriel Rovira Esteva
>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Mai 2017 22:15
>> *An:* Council of the European Pirate Party <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-
>> international.net>
>> *Cc:* EU Election coordination group <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>;
>> PPEU Board <pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net>; Internationale
>> Koordination <int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
>> *Betreff:* Re: [pp-eu] [pp-eu.council] [Int-koordination] [pp-eu.board]

>> Complaint for the upcoming council meeting of PPEU
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am creating now the users "by hand", you should receive an email from me
>> in a few minutes.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>            Muriel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-05-25 21:20 GMT+02:00 Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de>:
>>
>> Hello Tony,
>>
>> thanks for you efforts. I did not receive any mail from the system. (spam
>> folder is empty as well)
>>
>> I was using this email address.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: int-koordination-request AT lists.piratenpartei.de [mailto:
>> int-koordination-request AT lists.piratenpartei.de] Im Auftrag von Tony
>> Motakis (tvelocity AT gmail.com via int-koordination Mailing List)
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Mai 2017 17:50
>> An: pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net
>> Cc: Council of the European Pirate Party <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-
>> international.net>; EU Election coordination group <
>> pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>; Internationale Koordination <
>> int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
>> Betreff: Re: [Int-koordination] [pp-eu.board] Complaint for the upcoming
>> council meeting of PPEU
>>
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>> Can you confirm whether you got an invitation email in the last minutes?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tony
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Tony Motakis <tvelocity AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello Thomas,
>>>
>>> With which email address(es) have you tried to register? I don't see a
>>> registered user with your name/email.
>>>
>>> Are you using the register link here?
>>> http://voteit.europeanpirateparty.eu/register
>>>
>>> Please also check your spam folder, while I investigate things from
>>> our side for possible causes. If you checked yesterday, please check
>>> again, there might have been a delay.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> 2017-05-24 23:18 GMT+02:00 Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de>:
>>
>>>> Dear board of PPEU!
>>>>
>>>> I made several attempts to sign in with the official Vote-IT via
>>>> http://voteit.europeanpirateparty.eu/.
>>>>
>>>> As for now I have not received any response from that very system. So
>>>> no sign in had been possible.
>>>>
>>>> I had made several attempts with even different email addresses.
>>>>
>>>> The board should assure that the participation in the Council Meeting
>>>> is assured for those being officially part of it.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, as assured by the statutes the meeting shall be open to
>>>> the public. As for the Vote-It tool I have found no way as to really
>>>> assure the public can participate.
>>>>
>>>> As the assumed start (25.05.2017 00:00 CEST) is coming close I expect
>>>> the board to act very quickly.
>>>>
>>>> And for another thing, on the Vote-IT tool is mentionend a "how to"
>>>> <https://prezi.com/mwgmftmou_qn/present/?auth_key=5hjiaos&
>> follow=hoch1kcutd31&kw=present-mwgmftmou_qn&rc=ref-80413>.
>>>> This introduction is no longer available.
>>>>
>>>> Please help out a.s.a.p.
>>>>
>>>> All delegates and the public should be able to participate. Please
>>>> take care of it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your efforts.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Gaul
>>>>
>>>>
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