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- From: Christoph Mayer <CU_Mayer AT Menschen-gerechte-Gesellschaft.de>
- To: Patrik Pekrul <patrik.pekrul AT hotmail.de>
- Cc: "ag-geldordnung-und-finanzpolitik AT lists.piratenpartei.de" <ag-geldordnung-und-finanzpolitik AT lists.piratenpartei.de>, moneymind <moneymind AT gmx.de>
- Subject: Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House
- Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 09:13:29 +0100
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Am 08.03.2015 um 08:13 schrieb Patrik Pekrul <patrik.pekrul AT hotmail.de>:
Am 07.03.2015 um 16:09 schrieb Christoph Ulrich Mayer <CU_Mayer AT Menschen-gerechte-Gesellschaft.de>:Am 07.03.2015 um 11:51 schrieb moneymind <moneymind AT gmx.de>:
bisher haben wir keine internationale "Spitze" der Kreditpyramide (globale Zentralbank - wie von Keynes 1944 als Internationale Clearing Union vorgeschlagen)
- eine international clearing union würde die Restsalden zwischen den Zentralbanken global verrechnen (clearen).
Diese internationale CU ist die BIZ in Basel, wurde damals eingeführt um die Reparationszahlungen zu handhaben aber man wurde sie danach nicht mehr lis.
Sie ist übrigens exterritorial wie die City of London oder der Vatikan.
Hierzu für die EZB interessant: https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/scplps/ecblwp4.pdf
II. Immunity from jurisdiction and from enforcement
Like other international organisations32 the ECB enjoys immunity from jurisdiction (Sec- tion 1) and immunity from enforcement (Section 2).
1. Immunity from jurisdiction
(a) Immunity from jurisdiction as the rule
Immunity from jurisdiction means that national courts are not competent to decide on legal disputes between an international organisation and a third party. Any action initiated against an organisation is inadmissible and must be dismissed. The principle of immunity from jurisdiction is a general and well-recognised principle of public international law and it applies even in the absence of an explicit provision33. It is reflected in provisions of na- tional law which limit the competence of national courts to organisations and persons who are subject to the jurisdiction of the respective state34.
However, in contrast to other international organisations the European Community and ECB do not enjoy unlimited immunity35. The EC Treaty and the ESCB Statute do confer a subsidiary competence upon national courts. Article 35.2 of the ESCB Statute states:
The immunity from jurisdiction granted to the ECB is limited in two respects.
(i) Activities outside scope of the ECB’s functions
The first limitation to the principle of immunity results from the principle of functional immunity. The ECB, like other international organisations, enjoys immunity from jurisdic- tion only for carrying out its official tasks as set out in the EC Treaty and the ESCB Statute and for auxiliary activities required to fulfil those tasks (see above in Part I.3(b)). Activities outside scope of the ECB’s functions are fully subject to the jurisdiction of national courts47.
(ii) Waiver of immunity
Secondly, an action against the ECB may be brought before a national court if the ECB has waived its immunity. Such waiver may be declared in advance, with regard to all potential legal disputes with a third party by way of a jurisdiction clause in a contract, or only in re- spect of a specific legal dispute that has already arisen48. Most of the contracts concluded by the ECB for the procurement of goods and services contain such a jurisdiction clause; it usually provides for the competence of the local courts in Frankfurt am Main. By agreeing to such a jurisdiction clause the ECB implicitly waives its immunity from jurisdiction. With regard to the competence of national courts, according to Article 35.2 of the ESCB Statute (see above) in many cases the waiver in the jurisdiction clause is only of a declara- tory nature. The advantage of inserting a jurisdiction clause in the contract consists in clearly determining the competent court, thereby avoiding the uncertainties of international procedural law.
- [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, David Finsterwalder, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, moneymind, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Christoph Ulrich Mayer, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Patrik Pekrul, 08.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Christoph Mayer, 08.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, David Finsterwalder, 08.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Christoph Mayer, 08.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Patrik Pekrul, 08.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, Christoph Ulrich Mayer, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, moneymind, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, David Finsterwalder, 07.03.2015
- Re: [AG-GOuFP] Banken als Clearing House, moneymind, 07.03.2015
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