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- From: "marc" <marc AT merkstduwas.de>
- To: "Michael Allan" <mike AT zelea.com>
- Cc: Votorola <votorola AT zelea.com>, ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de
- Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:20:34 +0200
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Hi Mike,
Great. Do you have TeamViewer installed by any chance?
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/
It's free for private use and available for Windows, Linux and Mac. With this we would have the chance of ad hoc desktop sharing, if needed.
Btw. isn't it true what Alex said, that you are not interested in eliminating the network effect in general, but "only" against establishing a monopoly?!
At least, I think, this is true for AG MFT (incl. me). I always interpreted your arguments in the junction of "network effect" AND "monopoly". This is what you are talking about, right?
Unfortunately I don't have time now to go through your email and Alex's reply to put my 2ct there.
More on Friday.
Cheers
marc
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Allan
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:26 PM
To: marc
Cc: ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de ; Votorola
Subject: Re: Helping the Pirate Party to vanish
Hi Mark,
Friday 1300 UTC - that's perfect. (I'm at UTC-4.) Talk to you then!
BTW, I'll refer to this document in our discussion:
http://zelea.com/w/User:Mike-ZeleaCom/Vote_mirroring_as_a_counter-monopoly_measure
http://zelea.com/w/User_talk:Mike-ZeleaCom/Vote_mirroring_as_a_counter-monopoly_measure
This is the only method I know of (so far) that can eliminate the
network effect. Note that the votes here are not decisive. A vote
means "I agree" with a primary position (eDialogos consensus:Position)
that is under discussion; or equivalently "I belong" to the group who
agrees with the position. We think the network effect that underpins
the party system and supports the dominant SPD and CDU/CSU coalitions
(while holding back the Pirates and other small parties) works
entirely through these primary votes (= agreement, = association).
The dominant parties cannot be beaten except by eliminating that
network effect.
--
Mike Allan
Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/
marc said:
Hi Mike,
Let's meet on Friday, 2013-04-19 at 01:00 PM UTC in Mumble (Bund /
Arbeitsgemeinschaften / Technik (IT) / AG Meinungsfindungstool). Short cut:
http://is.gd/yN0dgS.
http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Mumble
Server: mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de
Port: 64738 (standard)
User: <any>
Passwort: <none>In which time zone do you live? Mine is UTC+2 - as you might
already know ;o)
Looking forward seeing, äh, hearing you...
Cheers
marc
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 11.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 12.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 13.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 13.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 13.04.2013
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 14.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 14.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 15.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 16.04.2013
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 16.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 17.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 17.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 14.04.2013
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 14.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 13.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 13.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [EM] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 15.04.2013
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 17.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [EM] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 18.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 19.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [EM] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 19.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 19.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Stephen Coffman, 22.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 13.04.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 12.04.2013
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