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Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Requirements in regard to split opinion formation


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I have to make it short, because it's late:

2 Points:
1. The use of the discussion system is not only to form oneself's opinion,
but also and especially to form the group's opinion and making this totally
visible.
2. Rating will definitifely play a central role within most of the opinion
forming tool plug-ins. Every argument or key aspect statement could
need a rating... The tricky thing is this:
There are different rating types.
There will be plug-in's only with thumb up and down for the whole
argument/key aspect statement/etc. ... and there will be plug-ins
with a more sophisticated approach where you rate an argument
in three different aspects (importance, correctness,
easy-to-understanding, just for instance).
And I fear, that plug-in's with 2 different rating types won't be able
to share their rating data, because they're producing totally different
types of rating data.
And I think that this example gives a good insight in the difficulties of
this approach of the whole rudimentary discussion-system with it's
plug-ins. The more rudimentary similarities a plug-in has with the
rest of the discussion platform, the more it benefits from the platform.
So totally freaky unique plug-in approaches, making everything
fundamentally different than anyone else ever thought of before,
will have the least benefit of the plattform.
But on the other hand, of course, it's important to have diversity and
differences, because after all, this platform is about testing out
different approaches ;) ...
it's meant to be an ideal development environment for developers and a
handy tool for the community at the same time. It is supposed to be
useful for everyone right from the start and be the most efficient, shortest
way to make progress developing higher, more optimal forms of
a discussion system.

Just one detail - world premier, never uttered before ! :D
At the bottom of the discussion system site should be a feedback
area, which is nicely designed and collects feedback of the community
for the different plug-ins with a smart system, so that the people
really think through their decissions... maybe by only making it
possible for them to give 3 points as a whole for all listed suggestions for
improvement regarding a plug-in, so that they can't and won't vote for
all suggestions, but only the currently most important for them...
well, and from there the feedback goes to the developers, so that they
always see, what improvement the community currently wants to be
applied the most...

I like the thought of designing the discussion system so, that it is strong
where LQFB is weak; and a lively feedbeck system, which is practically
considered by the developers, definetively would be one point to reach this.

Greeting,
/ aka Oliver




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