Re: [Int-koordination] PPI weitere Vorschläge für Satzungsänderungen

[michael john sinclair <mickeyy_sinclair AT yahoo.de>]

the court of attribution must go, as Switzerland said its far too complicated at International level and it should stay at National level where it started.

Regards Mickey.

Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels AT piratenpartei-hessen.de> schrieb am 16:30 Donnerstag, 23.Juni 2016:

+1
Wobei ich auch bei dem ersten Vorschlag von mehr als nur Kosmetik - sondern der Verauch zu Kaschieren, dass der Vorstand die GA Beschlüsse einfach ignoriert - und weder die Komitees eingerichtet hat, noch die Arbeit an einem gemeinsamen Manifest vorangetrieben hatte.

Einfach nur traurig.

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> On 23.06.2016, at 01:10, Bastian <bastian AT piratbb.de> wrote:
>
> Moin,
>
> ich unterstütze keine der drei Änderungen.
>
> Nr.1 ist reine Kosmetik.
>
> Nr.2 bescheidet die GA in wesentlichen Rechten. Es hat überhaupt nichts mit "Top-down" zu tun, wenn eine GA $Dinge beschließt. Es wäre inakzeptabel, wenn eine zufällig Gruppe außerhalb der GA einfach Richtungen vorgibt, die nicht demokratisch entschieden wurden.
>
> Nr.3 ist nicht akzeptabel. Seit wann gibt es eine Anwesenheitspflicht bei einer GA? Und soll die PPI nun mit Macht komplette kaputt gemacht werden? Reichen denn die Erfahrungen vor bzw. nach Warschau nicht?
>
> Ich kann mich nur wundern!
>
> VG
> Bastian
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: int-koordination-request AT lists.piratenpartei.de [mailto:int-koordination-
>> request AT lists.piratenpartei.de] Im Auftrag von Thomas Gaul
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Juni 2016 18:41
>> An: 'Internationale Koordination'
>> Betreff: [Int-koordination] PPI weitere Vorschläge für Satzungsänderungen
>>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> die Deadline steht ja bekanntlich vor der Haustüre. Jedoch habe ich heute, die
>> für gestern angekündigten Vorschläge von Pakki und Josef Collentine erhalten,
>> die ich Euch zur Meinungsäußerung anreiche.
>>
>> Es sind drei Vorschläge. Bitte genau lesen und Meinung äußern.
>>
>> Neugierige Grüße
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> ===SAP-X  II Goals - Removing "information & coordination on core topics"
>> ===
>>
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Tasks & Goals !style="background-color:#999;
>> color:#FFFFFF;" | Changing the Goals of PPI
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>>
>>
>> Delete paragraph (2) e: "share information and coordinate research on the core
>> pirate topics,"
>>
>> |-
>> !align="right" | Motivation: The goals are already wide enough for PPI without
>> this. There has been no attempts at accomplishing this goal during the past few
>> years and PPI will need more resources before this goal will be a priority. Better
>> having more focused goals that are accomplished than having intentions that
>> are not followed.
>>
>> |
>> |}
>>
>>
>>
>> ==SAP-X Changing the functions of the General Assembly ==
>>
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Changing the functions of the General Assembly
>> !style="background-color:#999; color:#FFFFFF;" | Remove policy motions &
>> resolutions
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>>
>> Remove function (a) and (b) from section X. "Functions of the General assembly"
>>
>> a) to consider the policies and standards of the Pirate Movement throughout the
>> world and take such action as shall further the goals of Pirate Parties
>> International,
>> b) to formulate the general policy of Pirate Parties International,
>>
>> |-
>> !align="right" | Motivation: PPI has started to become a supranational
>> organization by adopting resolutions that the members are expected to
>> follow: http://wiki.pp-international.net/Resolutions
>>
>> PPI should not be a top-down organization that dictates which policies their
>> members adopt. It's enough having larger agreements (such as the Uppsala
>> declaration http://wiki.pp-international.net/Uppsala_Declaration, Prague
>> declaration http://ppeu.net/?p=339and the CEEP
>> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=programme:ceepwhich are joined bottom-
>> up.
>>
>> Through removing the ability to add new policies PPI would focuse on
>> coordinating, promoting and interacting with their members rather than telling
>> them what to do.
>>
>> |
>> |}
>>
>> ==SAP-X Termination of Membership==
>>
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Termination of Membership !style="background-
>> color:#999; color:#FFFFFF;" | Changing requirements for members of PPI
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>>
>> Change
>>
>> VII. Termination of Membership
>>
>> (3) A Member's affiliation ceases automatically upon dissolution,
>> disqualification, liquidation or in cases of temporary administration, court-
>> ordered settlement or insolvency. The Membership also ends automatically
>> when this Member does no longer fulfill the criteria that were necessary for its
>> preliminary recognition as a Member.
>>
>> to
>>
>> VII. Termination of Membership
>>
>> (3) A Member's affiliation ceases automatically upon dissolution,
>> disqualification, liquidation or in cases of temporary administration, court-
>> ordered settlement or insolvency. The Membership also ends automatically
>> when this Member does no longer fulfill the criteria that were necessary for its
>> preliminary recognition as a Member. If a member fails to attend either of the
>> two past General Assemblies their membership is terminated as well.
>>
>> |-
>> !align="right" |reasoning and motivation
>> | Having members of PPI that are inactive in the organization only makes
>> | the
>> interaction between members harder and statutes will be harder to pass.
>> |}
>>
>>
>>
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