Re: [Int-koordination] PPI weitere Vorschläge für Satzungsänderungen

[Gregory Engels <Gregory.Engels AT piratenpartei-hessen.de>]

+1
Wobei ich auch bei dem ersten Vorschlag von mehr als nur Kosmetik - sondern 
der Verauch zu Kaschieren, dass der Vorstand die GA Beschlüsse einfach 
ignoriert - und weder die Komitees eingerichtet hat, noch die Arbeit an einem 
gemeinsamen Manifest vorangetrieben hatte.

Einfach nur traurig.

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> On 23.06.2016, at 01:10, Bastian <bastian AT piratbb.de> wrote:
> 
> Moin,
> 
> ich unterstütze keine der drei Änderungen.
> 
> Nr.1 ist reine Kosmetik.
> 
> Nr.2 bescheidet die GA in wesentlichen Rechten. Es hat überhaupt nichts mit 
> "Top-down" zu tun, wenn eine GA $Dinge beschließt. Es wäre inakzeptabel, 
> wenn eine zufällig Gruppe außerhalb der GA einfach Richtungen vorgibt, die 
> nicht demokratisch entschieden wurden.
> 
> Nr.3 ist nicht akzeptabel. Seit wann gibt es eine Anwesenheitspflicht bei 
> einer GA? Und soll die PPI nun mit Macht komplette kaputt gemacht werden? 
> Reichen denn die Erfahrungen vor bzw. nach Warschau nicht?
> 
> Ich kann mich nur wundern!
> 
> VG
> Bastian
> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: int-koordination-request AT lists.piratenpartei.de 
>> [mailto:int-koordination-
>> request AT lists.piratenpartei.de] Im Auftrag von Thomas Gaul
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Juni 2016 18:41
>> An: 'Internationale Koordination'
>> Betreff: [Int-koordination] PPI weitere Vorschläge für Satzungsänderungen
>> 
>> Hallo,
>> 
>> die Deadline steht ja bekanntlich vor der Haustüre. Jedoch habe ich heute, 
>> die
>> für gestern angekündigten Vorschläge von Pakki und Josef Collentine 
>> erhalten,
>> die ich Euch zur Meinungsäußerung anreiche.
>> 
>> Es sind drei Vorschläge. Bitte genau lesen und Meinung äußern.
>> 
>> Neugierige Grüße
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
>> ===SAP-X  II Goals - Removing "information & coordination on core topics"
>> ===
>> 
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Tasks & Goals 
>> !style="background-color:#999;
>> color:#FFFFFF;" | Changing the Goals of PPI
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>> 
>> 
>> Delete paragraph (2) e: "share information and coordinate research on the 
>> core
>> pirate topics,"
>> 
>> |-
>> !align="right" | Motivation: The goals are already wide enough for PPI 
>> without
>> this. There has been no attempts at accomplishing this goal during the 
>> past few
>> years and PPI will need more resources before this goal will be a 
>> priority. Better
>> having more focused goals that are accomplished than having intentions that
>> are not followed.
>> 
>> |
>> |}
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ==SAP-X Changing the functions of the General Assembly ==
>> 
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Changing the functions of the General 
>> Assembly
>> !style="background-color:#999; color:#FFFFFF;" | Remove policy motions &
>> resolutions
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>> 
>> Remove function (a) and (b) from section X. "Functions of the General 
>> assembly"
>> 
>> a) to consider the policies and standards of the Pirate Movement 
>> throughout the
>> world and take such action as shall further the goals of Pirate Parties
>> International,
>> b) to formulate the general policy of Pirate Parties International,
>> 
>> |-
>> !align="right" | Motivation: PPI has started to become a supranational
>> organization by adopting resolutions that the members are expected to
>> follow: http://wiki.pp-international.net/Resolutions
>> 
>> PPI should not be a top-down organization that dictates which policies 
>> their
>> members adopt. It's enough having larger agreements (such as the Uppsala
>> declaration http://wiki.pp-international.net/Uppsala_Declaration , Prague
>> declaration http://ppeu.net/?p=339 and the CEEP
>> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=programme:ceep which are joined bottom-
>> up.
>> 
>> Through removing the ability to add new policies PPI would focuse on
>> coordinating, promoting and interacting with their members rather than 
>> telling
>> them what to do.
>> 
>> |
>> |}
>> 
>> ==SAP-X Termination of Membership==
>> 
>> {| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
>> !align="right" width="165px"  | Termination of Membership 
>> !style="background-
>> color:#999; color:#FFFFFF;" | Changing requirements for members of PPI
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Sponsor
>> | Pirate Party Name and short form  (PPXX)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Member(s) of Pirate Party proposing
>> | Name(s)
>> |-
>> !align="right" |Contact data
>> | email address or similar
>> |-
>> !align="right" |proposal ballot(s)
>> |
>> '''Proposal:'''
>> 
>> Change
>> 
>> VII. Termination of Membership
>> 
>> (3) A Member's affiliation ceases automatically upon dissolution,
>> disqualification, liquidation or in cases of temporary administration, 
>> court-
>> ordered settlement or insolvency. The Membership also ends automatically
>> when this Member does no longer fulfill the criteria that were necessary 
>> for its
>> preliminary recognition as a Member.
>> 
>> to
>> 
>> VII. Termination of Membership
>> 
>> (3) A Member's affiliation ceases automatically upon dissolution,
>> disqualification, liquidation or in cases of temporary administration, 
>> court-
>> ordered settlement or insolvency. The Membership also ends automatically
>> when this Member does no longer fulfill the criteria that were necessary 
>> for its
>> preliminary recognition as a Member. If a member fails to attend either of 
>> the
>> two past General Assemblies their membership is terminated as well.
>> 
>> |-
>> !align="right" |reasoning and motivation
>> | Having members of PPI that are inactive in the organization only makes
>> | the
>> interaction between members harder and statutes will be harder to pass.
>> |}
>> 
>> 
>> 
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