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Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Zusammenarbeit AG Geldordnung & AG MFT


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  • From: Scott Raney <scott AT metacard.com>
  • To: ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de
  • Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Zusammenarbeit AG Geldordnung & AG MFT
  • Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:50:18 -0600
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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Martin Stolze <pirate.martin AT stolze.cc> wrote:
> I read over it too and had to smile. Economics are tough and without a
> shortage of solutions that rationalize only a fraction of reality.
> - No need to bother since Bitcoin takes the problem of the table :)

Yeah, we're seeing a lot of that on the Metagovernment list, lately.
It's a distraction because it has absolutely nothing to do with
decisionmaking (i.e. "government").

> I always thought that inheritance tax is very appealing too. It's just that
> it used to be impossible because it goes against the most power full
> interests + infinite legal loopholes.

Agreed, which is why it's probably impractical to propose abolishing
until we have a direct democracy in place (i.e., removed the SDAPs
from their positions of power, most efficiently implemented by
eliminating those positions). But I'm actually having pretty good luck
with this proposal when challenging people on the forums (like
Facebook). At first they categorically reject the idea, but with a
little wheedling they think about it some more and come around to the
idea that allowing inheritance belongs in the dustbin of bad ideas
alongside slavery and denying women the right to vote. One of the more
convincing points is that the US had a 70% maximum rate in the 1950s
and 60s, one of the most productive periods in our history. Most
people don't realize that, or that it's less than half that rate now.
But again, Greece is far worse...

> In addition, today, it's not sure if people are going to die anymore at all.
> Some rich person could easily be kept on life support for decades, never
> mind moving abroad.

Piketty's "wealth tax" proposal runs right into the latter, but
Matchism doesn't really: By the time it catches on the children of the
rich would have to move to a third-world country to be able to collect
any of the assets of their parents (i.e., it's a lot easier to
implement than a wealth tax).
Regards,
Scott




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