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Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Requirements in regard to split opinion formation: Outcome A


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  • From: "marc" <marc AT merkstduwas.de>
  • To: "Start/Metagov" <start AT metagovernment.org>, "AG Meinungsfindungstool" <ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
  • Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Requirements in regard to split opinion formation: Outcome A
  • Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:40:45 +0100
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Hi Mike,

Please don't think of competition as a fight with only negative impact - think of it more in a cooperate way. The tools can also influence each other in a positive way, instead of just dominating.

At the end there might be an evolution of all possible and thinkable methodologies of discussion towards the optimum of decision-making tools.

And yes, of course, some tools might die. But again this must not be seen as a bad thing.

With the Common Discussion Framework Standard you can easily move your discussion over to another tool - and no effort on those tools is lost!

Or did I get something wrong?

Cheers
Marc

-----Original Message----- From: Michael Allan
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:18 PM
To: Start/Metagov ; AG Meinungsfindungstool
Subject: [MG] Requirements in regard to split opinion formation: Outcome A

Here is one possible outcome to the unstable situation of diagram (3).
http://metagovernment.org/pipermail/start_metagovernment.org/2012-October/005110.html


(A.1) ....
.......... M1 ...
.............. .... ..........
....................... ............
...................... ..........
............. .... ..
.......... ...... M2
... ......
..
\\
+-----+ +-----+ \\ //
| | | | \\+-----+ //
| T1 | | T2 | \\ | //
| | | | \\T3 | //
+-|-|-+ +-|-|-+ |\\ | //
+---------|-|------|-|---+ +-\\|-+ //
| | | | | | +---|\\---//----+ +---
| | | | \\ // | |
| S1 | | \// S2 | |
| | | /\\ | |
+------------------------+ +-----//-\\-----+ +---
// \\
// \\
M Opinion in formation // \\
T Competing tools // \\
S Common standards, practices, // \\
databases, and so forth // \\
//

http://zelea.com/var/tmp-public/agm/split-opinion-A.1.txt


Rival platforms (such as S2) are simply eliminated until a single
platform is left standing. That platform becomes the de facto
monopoly.

Personally, I don't like this outcome. T3 could easily be Votorola
and S2 could be Outcast. I chose to work on those, and I don't want
to be forced out of my work, or to lose my freedom of choice. This is
where I have a personal concern with the common platform that's being
mooted by AG Meinungsfindungstool.

--
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/

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