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Re: [Int-koordination] Working Group for Elections 2019 - let the party begin!


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  • From: Oktavía Hrund Jónsdóttir <oktavia AT piratar.is>
  • To: Jaromil <jaromil AT dyne.org>
  • Cc: carlo von lynX <lynX AT pirates.are.psyced.org>, pp-eu.programme AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, pp-eu.coordinators AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, pp-eu AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, pp-eu.euroliquid AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, pp-eu.education AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, pp-eu.council AT lists.european-pirateparty.eu, int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de
  • Subject: Re: [Int-koordination] Working Group for Elections 2019 - let the party begin!
  • Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:17:07 +0000

Dear Jaromil and Carlo,

with the risk of annoyance I will just jump right in on this subject.

Firstly, the PPEU will tell no one to shut up - it may however ask people to direct the conversation to another platform or tell someone speaking without respect to a member on this list that they cannot participate anymore. We are informally reaching a good code of conduct for our conversations and communication, partly by increased participation. Perhaps writing those down will be a good idea (more on that later and in another thread).

In regards to your question of DiEM25 or not - there needs to be more information for informed choices to be made and we need to have that conversation.

I suggest to start a separate thread on this topic next week when we have more information. In the meantime I strongly encourage the following:

1) read the PPEU board meeting notes! they are here: 
https://ppeu.piratenpad.de/boardmeeting01
https://ppeu.piratenpad.de/boardmeeting02
and so on - we have had 5 so far.
2) Listen in on the Board meetings! The next board meeting is announced at the bottom of the pads. The next one is:  11.04.2018, 19:00 hrs UTC / 20:00 hrs CET
3) get involved on the new thread once we set it up and in the conversation that starts there!

Carlo - I will ping you separately with a question about the inner power circles of DiEM25

Bests and yyyaarrr!!!!!!


Oktavía Hrund Jónsdóttir (ms)
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Chairperson, European Pirate Party
Varaþingkona Pírata, Suðvesturkjördæmi
Deputy MP Pirate Party Iceland, Southwest Constituency

+3548759960
oktavia AT piratar.is


On 14. mar. 2018, at 11:15, Jaromil <jaromil AT dyne.org> wrote:


hi everyone,

thanks for the mail Carlo, I'm happy to see life signals from the
pirate ships landing into my INBOX ;) now let me flood you via this
shameless crossposting with the promise to not continue further.

on the matter debated, my humble opinion is

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, carlo von lynX wrote:

So the questions remain -- should we join DiEM25 or not?

Yes I believe so

Is it an actual movement or just a Varoufakis fan club?

to me its obvious its a top-down show (or avantgarde as they may
better like to be called) born out of Varoufakis fan club. It is also
heavily identitarian, a problem many Pirate Parties themselves suffer
from. Said that, awareness of problems is the first step to solve them
;^)

ciao


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