Re: [Int-koordination] [pp-leaders] [pp-eu] [PP-EU.programme] [PIRATES-Council-Meeting-2017] Fwd: Re: [pp-eu.council] Request for a council meeting - Art. 14 (7) Statutes PPEU - Prague, Nov. 18./19., 2017

[Mikuláš Peksa <mikulas.peksa AT pirati.cz>]

Lieber Patrick,

es ist schon seit Monaten, als wir uns letzte mal gesehen haben. Es tut mir 
leid, dass ich still war, aber wir beide haben viel zu tun in unsere 
Parteien. Trotz war es überraschend, dein gestrigen Email zu lesen. Wie ist 
es jetzt mit der Piratenpartei Deutschland und die Europäischen 
Piratenpartei? Steht ihr noch hinter die ganze Idee?

Ich war und bin ein stolzer Mitglied der Piratenpartei Deutschland. Deutsches 
Team der internationaler Koordination war uns - Tschechen - immer der 
wichtigste Parter bei unsere Bemühung für starke internationale 
Zusammenarbeit. Und wir wollen weitermachen auch bei Europawahl in 2019. 
Leider ist es fast da - wir haben etwa 1,5 Jahr um eine Wahlbündnis zu 
vorbereiten, einen Spitzenkandidat zu wählen, ein Wahlprogramm zu schreiben 
und es zu ratifizieren in jeder einziger Partei.

Es tut mir leid, dass ich nicht mehr schreiben kann, als wir jetzt gerade in 
der Mitte eines Wahlkampfs sind. Die Wahl für Tschechischen Parliament läuft 
diese Wochenende, und wir stehen bei 7 % in Umfragen.  Ich habe den gestrigen 
Email geschrieben, weil es - praktisch, wegen Weihnachten - die letzte 
Möglichkeit in diesem Jahr ist. Wenn es nicht so wäre, würde ich es nicht tun.

Jetzt steht die Frage - wenn wir die einzige Piratenpartei in ganzen Europa 
sind, die es in Parliament schafft, steht ihr bei uns? Hilft ihr uns die 
Europäischen Piratenpartei zu organisieren und die Europawahl zu vorbereiten?

Wenn es nicht so wäre, würde ich - als Mitglied des PPCZ Vorstands - eine 
Pflicht fühlen, um eine andere Wahlbündnis vorzuschlagen.

Ich muss noch eine wichtige Sache sagen. Wir sind von Grünen unabhängig. Wir 
haben eine Wahlbündnis mit Grünen für die Parliamentwahl abgelehnt, trotz es 
von Herrn Bjärnemalm gelobbt wurde. Und wir werden weitermachen - die Grüne 
in Tschechien sind schwach, unpopulär und rutschen ins Chaos.

Beste Grüsse,

Mikuláš

p.s. Die Internationale Koordination steht in in der Kopie.


______________________________________________________________
> Od: Patrick Schiffer <patrick.schiffer AT piratenpartei-nrw.de>
> Komu: PPEU coordination group <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>,
> Datum: 15.10.2017 23:23
> Předmět: Re: [pp-leaders] [pp-eu] [PP-EU.programme]
>
>Dear board of the PPEU,
>Dear Pirates,
>
>please take into your consideration, that the Board of the German Pirate
>Party did not make any decision concerning the request for a council
>meeting under Art. 14 (7) from 10th october of our international
>coordinator Thomas Gaul. I feel surprised, that the board was not
>informed about this initiative and I hope, we'll find a solution in any
>way possible.
>
>We support the PPEU board in any decision possible and look forward into
>working with you in the future.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Patrick Schiffer
>Chairman
>Pirate Party Germany
>
>Am 15.10.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Thomas Gaul:
>> Dear Mattias!
>>
>> PPDE considers the invitation as valid! A member of the board finally
>> has had the guts to stand with PPEU and did invite! You did not.
>>
>> Think those Parties who supported the intitial mail are behind it.
>>
>> I reject you saying "an indivuell".
>>
>> It is Parties behind it!!!
>>
>> You might claim otherwise as for having no meeting at all.
>>
>> Otherwise, when would you be willing to act as a board member for having
>> (re-)elections to the board? Or shall it be postponed indefinitely?
>>
>> The necessary support by PPEU members is given. A board member has
>> invited. You are nothing but an inactive board member trying to prevent
>> reelection.
>>
>> And I bet, other parties will step in as well. A new board is overdue.
>> You have lost! Finally, after a long time nothing had happend.
>>
>> You are invited to be a candidate again!
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Thomas Gaul
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 15.10.2017 um 22:15 schrieb mattias.bjarnemalm AT piratpartiet.se:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dear all, 
>>>
>>> please be advised that Mikuláš Peksa does not speak on behalf of the
>>> board of the European Pirate party in this matter. There has been no
>>> board decision to call a meeting in Prague on 18th and 19th of November
>>> 2017, and mr Peksa has not been delegated the authority to call such a
>>> meeting. 
>>>
>>> This action of his was a rogue action taken by an individual. I do not
>>> doubt that he acted in good faith, believing that he was entitled to
>>> call a meeting without the consent or even discussion with the rest of
>>> the board, but as the matter stand this is clearly in violation of the
>>> statues of the association. 
>>>
>>> Any meeting taking place there should not be recogniced as a council
>>> meeting of the association formed in Brussels in 2014. 
>>>
>>> Please allow the board to get back to you all regarding how the
>>> association will proceed. 
>>>
>>> Best regards, 
>>>
>>> Mattias Bjärnemalm
>>> Board member
>>> European Pirate Party
>>>
>>> On 2017-10-15 22:03, Communication channel for the European Pirates
>>> Council Meeting 2017 wrote: 
>>>
>>>> Please forward this to all available channels to other member and non
>>>> member parties! And if possible, add the invite on your pages and
>>>> promote it internally!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of all the parties being involved in the invite.
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Gaul
>>>> Delegate to PPEU for PPDE
>>>>
>>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>>> Betreff: Re: [pp-eu.council] Request for a council meeting - Art. 14 (7)
>>>> Statutes PPEU - Prague, Nov. 18./19., 2017
>>>> Datum: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 21:32:27 +0200
>>>> Von: Mikuláš Peksa <mikulas.peksa AT pirati.cz>
>>>> Antwort an: Council of the European Pirate Party
>>>> <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-international.net>
>>>> An: Council of the European Pirate Party
>>>> <pp-eu.council AT lists.pp-international.net>,
>>>> pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net
>>>>
>>>> Dear council members,
>>>>
>>>> Respecting the article 16 (6) of the Statues, on behalf of the Board, I
>>>> hereby invite you to a council meeting.
>>>> The council meeting will be held on the 18th and 19th of November 2017
>>>> in Prague at Česká pirátská strana, Řehořova 943/19, Praha 3, Czech
>>>> Republik.
>>>>
>>>> We, all the Board members, deeply regret that article 14 (7) of the
>>>> Statues was violated as the Council meeting did not take place during
>>>> 2016. Please support this very last opportunity to organise a meeting in
>>>> 2017.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to see you in Prague!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mikuláš Peksa
>>>> Board member
>>>> European Pirate Party
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>> Od: Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de> Komu: PPEU Board 
>>>>> <pp-eu.board AT lists.pp-international.net>, Datum: 10.10.2017 22:46 
>>>>> Předmět: [pp-eu.council] Request for a council meeting - Art. 14 (7) 
>>>>> Dear Board of PPEU, On behalf of the following Member Parties of PPEU 
>>>>> and its delegates the undersigned requests a council meeting according 
>>>>> to article 14 (7) of the PPEU - to be held on the 18th and 19th of 
>>>>> November 2017 in Prague at Česká pirátská strana, Řehořova 943/19, 
>>>>> Praha 3, Czech Republik: Pirate Party of France Pirate Party of 
>>>>> Switzerland Pirate Party of Czech Republik Pirate Party of Norway 
>>>>> Pirate Party of Germany Pirate Party of Austria Additionally we propose 
>>>>> the agenda provided to you in the annex to this letter. The mentioned 
>>>>> place is already reserved for PPEU. Please send out your invitation by 
>>>>> 15.10.2017 at the latest. For your information PPDE and other parties 
>>>>> will take care for further formalities. On behalf of the above 
>>>>> mentioned parties. Best re
 gar
>>>  ds
>>> Thomas Gaul, Council member for PPDE Jens Stomber, Council member for 
>>> PPDE Alexander Spies, Council member for PPDE Gregory Engels, Council 
>>> member for PPDE =========================================== Sample 
>>> Invitation, can be used as one to one copy: Invitation to the PPEU 
>>> Council Meeting November 2017 Dear European Pirates, We would like to 
>>> invite you to the next council meeting of PPEU. This meeting will be held 
>>> in Prague on November 18th and 19th 2017 at Česká pirátská strana, 
>>> Řehořova 943/19, Praha 3, Czech Republik The council meeting is the 
>>> equivalent of the General Assembly for the organization, and at the 
>>> meeting we will among other things elect a new board, decide on the 
>>> admittance of observer members and have a discussion on the future 
>>> direction for our organization. A draft agenda you will find in the annex 
>>> of this Email. Other pirates and interested persons are also very welcome 
>>> to join as guests at the Council meeting. Socialising events for Friday, 
>>> 17t
 h an
>>>  d
>>> Saturday 18th will be announced in time. Registration To register for the 
>>> conference please send an email to international AT piratenpartei.de and put 
>>> the organisers in CC (ppeuorg AT pp-international.net). In the email you 
>>> should include name, if you are a delegate from a party. If you will 
>>> attend remotely (via mumble) please inform as as you will have to hand in 
>>> another document to very your attendence. This will be taken care of 
>>> later. Proposing candidates for the board and putting forth proposals to 
>>> the Council meeting All ordinary members can put forth candidates to the 
>>> board of the European Pirate Party and submit items for the agenda of the 
>>> Council meeting. Please note that the deadline for board nominations and 
>>> proposals for statutes changes are 18th of October 2017. Best regards 
>>> XXY, Board of PPEU 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>  Annex: Proposed Agenda: 17.11.2017 - FRIDAY (Inoffical part): t.b
 .a.
>>> 18.11.2017 - SATURDAY (6 hours): 1. Opening of the meeting (13:00) a. 
>>> Appoint 1 chairperson, 2 secretaries, 2 vote counters b. Establishing 
>>> quorum (13:10) c. Adopt rules of procedure & agenda (13:15) 2. Membership 
>>> fee requests (delay, partial or total relievance) (13:20) 3. New members 
>>> presentation & admission a. Ordinary Member : b. Observer Member : 4. 
>>> Report be the Board of PPEU 5. Discussion & vote - Future of the 
>>> organisation 6. Discussion & vote - Statutes amendments Proposal 1: Move 
>>> to Luxembourg - Link Proposal 2: More to Luxembourg plus more - Link 
>>> 19.11.2017 - SUNDAY - Remaining items from Saturday, if there are any 7. 
>>> Approval of accounts and reports 8. Board elections 9. Other items Agenda 
>>> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=council-agenda_2017 [1] Candidates: 
>>> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=3rd_council_meeting_2017:nominations [2] 
>>> -- internationaler Koordinator - international Coordinator Piratenpartei 
>>> Deutschland - Pirate Party of Germany Pflugstraße 9a, D-10
 115 
>>>  Berlin,
>>> Germany Vorstand: Patrick Schiffer (Vorsitzender), Carsten Sawosch 
>>> (Stellvertretender Vorsitzender), Lothar Krauß (Schatzmeister), Kristos 
>>> Thingilouthis (Politischer Geschäftsführer), Steffen Heuer 
>>> (Stellvertretender Schatzmeister), Thomas Knoblich (Amtierender 
>>> Generalsekretär), Alexander Niedermeier (Stellvertretender politischer 
>>> Geschäftsführer) ---------- 
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>>>>
>>>> -- 
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>>>> Piratenpartei Deutschland - Pirate Party of Germany
>>>>
>>>> Pflugstraße 9a, D-10115 Berlin, Germany
>>>>
>>>> Vorstand: Patrick Schiffer (Vorsitzender), Carsten Sawosch
>>>> (Stellvertretender Vorsitzender), Lothar Krauß (Schatzmeister), Kristos
>>>> Thingilouthis (Politischer Geschäftsführer), Steffen Heuer
>>>> (Stellvertretender Schatzmeister), Thomas Knoblich (Amtierender
>>>> Generalsekretär), Alexander Niedermeier (Stellvertretender politischer
>>>> Geschäftsführer)
>>>>
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>>>  
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=council-agenda_2017
>>> [2]
>>> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=3rd_council_meeting_2017:nominations
>>> [3] http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.council
>>> [4]
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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>Patrick Schiffer
>Vorsitzender
>Piratenpartei Deutschland
>
>Telefon: 0162 177 0011
>Twitter: @pschiffer
>
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>
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