[Int-koordination] Fwd: Re: [pp-eu] Collection of Proposals for the Common Programme is in the PPEU Wiki

[Martina Pöser <martina.poeser AT bremen.piratenpartei.de>]

Moin!

Hier der schwedische Vorschlag bzw. die schwedischen Anmerkungen. Wie Ihr sehen könnt, schrumpft das Programm ganz ohne dass wir selbst Teile unseres Vorschlags zurückziehen müssten und die Ängste vor einem überlangen programm sind damit auch unbegründet.

Genauso etwas hatte ich erwartet. Ich halte es trotzdem für gut, dass wir einen umfangreichen Vorschlag zur Diskussion gestellt haben und so die anderen Piraten zur Diskussion über unsere weitergehenden Positionen angeregt haben.

Ich werde alle weiteren eingegangenen Vorschläge (von PP-CAT, PP-SE und PP-CZ) heute abend noch ins Wiki einpflegen.

Ich bin wirklich optimistisch, dass die Konferenz sehr produktiv wird!

LG, Martina

-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [pp-eu] Collection of Proposals for the Common Programme is in the PPEU Wiki Datum: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 01:45:20 +0100 Von: mattias.bjarnemalm AT piratpartiet.se An: <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>, <pp-eu.programme AT lists.pp-international.net>, <international AT pirateparty.gr>, <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>, <pp-eu.coordinators AT lists.pp-international.net>, <pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>, <martina.poeser AT bremen.piratenpartei.de> Kopie (CC): <styrelsen AT piratpartiet.se>

Dear fellow pirates.

I apologize for sending this a bit late, but I figured that better late 
than never.

In the Swedish pirate party board discussion on the German proposal for 
a common EU programme the focus has not been so much about what we can 
add, but rather what we would need to remove to be able to support the 
document as a common Election Programme. As you know our political 
objectives are decided by the members at our online assemblies, and the 
board does not have a mandate to formulate new policy. That means that 
we are not able to support any texts that go beyond the scope set by the 
members of Piratpartiet.

As the German proposal is quite ambitious and expands into a lot of 
areas not commonly covered by pirate parties this means that we where 
forced to focus on what we would need to remove. I hope this in no 
regard is seen as us not being greatly appreciative of the work put down 
by our german colleagues.

As I will not be present at the conference in Athens I would appreciate 
if you could include our delegate Anton Nordenfur 
(anton.nordenfur AT piratpartiet.se) in any replies sent to this email.

Below are the comments brought forward by the board of the Swedish 
Pirate Party. The parts that lack comments are in compliance with our 
policies and therefore supported by the Swedish Pirate Party.


Comments to the German proposal:


1.1 Preamble
The preamble needs to be rewritten in such a way that it does not 
portray the interests of the member states and European interests as 
inherently opposed to each other.

It should also change "The primary goal of all PIRATES will be to fix 
this and to build a solid democratic foundation for the European Union." 
as this is primarily done by the counsil, ie the member states, and not 
the European Parliament. It also puts that objective before all other 
pirate objectives, such as copyright reform and changing the patent 
system. And we are not convinced that such a priority would be in line 
with the will of our members. A possible sollution would be to use the 
phrase "A goal of all PIRATES....."

We would also need a clarification what "common European cultural 
space" and why that should be something created by the European 
parliament rather than bottom up from the people.

1.2 Democracy Add-on for Europe
The first part talks about a Convention in a very detailed way that 
contradicts the model that the Swedish Pirate party has decided to 
support. We would like to suggest that we change the text to something 
more abstract rather than giving a detailed sollution on the how.

The second part talks about citizens initiative, and that part does not 
fit with our policies as they are today and needs to be removed 
entirely.

The third part talks about the distribution of power between the 
different institutions and here we are generally agreeing with the text 
but want the last sentence removed.

1.3.2: Security Research and Monitoring Software
First paragraph might need some minor adjustment to fit our policies, 
the following paragraphs needs to be removed entirely.

1.3.3 European Data Protection Regulation With a High Level of Data 
Protection
paragraph 1 & 2 are great, 3 is unfortunately also great, but have no 
support in our policies, so we cannot back it at this point. 4 & 5 is 
fine.

1.4 Refugee Policy
 Remove the call to dismantle Frontex. The rest is in accordance with 
our policies

1.5.2 Setting Up of a Mandatory Lobby Register at All European Levels
remove entire paragraph

1.5.3 Tightening of the Rules on Transparency and Casual Earnings of 
MEPs
remove entire paragraph

1.5.4 Introduction of Cooling-Off Periods for Top Politicians
remove entire paragraph

1.5.5 Whistleblower Protection Law in Public Administration and in the 
Private Sector
This is currently in line with a proposal at our GA that we believe 
will pass. So hopefully we will be able to support this. We will know in 
less than two weeks, so we can keep it for now while we wait for the 
outcome of the votes of our GA.

1.5.6 Transparency of Public Procurement
Firs sentence is great, rest needs to be rephrased and less detailed.

1.7.2 Protect Net Neutrality EU-Wide
Second paragraph would benefit from being adressed at a higher level of 
abstraction.

1.7.4  Free, Legally-Binding Digital Signatures and E-Mail Encryption 
for Everyone
Needs to be rephrased if we want to keep it. I would suggest that you 
get in touch with our MEP Amelia who is currently working on the EU 
legislation on this.

1.11, 1.12 & 1.13 agricultural policy, social policy and economic and 
financial policy
Remove everything on agricultural policy, social policy and economic 
and financial policy.

1.14.1.3 Privatisations only after a Referendum
remove paragraph

1.14.1.5 Social and Ecological Standards
remove paragraph

1.14.1.6 Trade Agreements Between Trading Partners With Huge Economic 
Disparities
remove paragraph

1.15 Energy Policy
remove "PIRATES defend the agreed climate goals of the EU. Successful 
reduction of global warming gases will only be possible with a mix of 
energy efficiency, an improved system for emissions trading at the 
European level, and strong support for renewable energy. We favor 
stronger cooperation and joint investments into the European energy 
infrastructure" from second paragraph and rewrite the rest.

remove "Transparent pricing and disclosure of the mix of energy sources 
is a prerequisite for a functional, consumer-controlled energy market. 
Only then, European consumers can take informed decisions what and where 
to buy - according to their individual preferences. " from third 
paragraph.

remove fourth paragraph entirely.

1.16  Traffic Policy & 1.17  Drugs and Addiction Policy
remove it all.

We have not had the time to look at the Czech proposal yet, but I hope 
that we will have the time before the meeting starts on saturday.

Best regards,

Mab


On 2013-10-21 20:03, Martina Pöser wrote:
> Collection of Proposals for the Common Programme is in the PPEU Wiki
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> as I promised last night, I set up pages to collect all proposals by
> all European Union Pirate Parties for the Common Election Programme 
> in
> the PPEU Wiki.
>
> You can find the links to the different sections here:
>
> http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=programme:conferences:athens2013 [1]
>
> As you can see, I also put up the information on it about the Athens
> Conference and about the schedule we agreed upon last night in the
> mumble session.
>
> I will add all proposals from all Pirate Parties handed in via email
> to the wiki. Please dont do it yourselves. If I forget about one,
> please contact me and I will immediately remedy my mistake.
>
> From now on all communication about the Common Programme (CEEP) will
> only be send to the pp-eu.programme mailing list. So please subscribe
> for it, if you want to know more about the Common Programme:
>
> http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.programme [2]
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martina
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://ppeu.net/wiki/doku.php?id=programme:conferences:athens2013
> [2] http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.programme
>
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