Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Abschied

[janonymous <janonymous AT news.piratenpartei.de>]

Hello Scott,

if you don't have any idea of what i am talking about or what i mean with 
functional in the term "functional fashism" just be quit and stop that 
prejuidiced jumping into black and white conclusions. That's the 
functional beginning of authoritarian and discriminating behavior!

You should recognize that your motivation to take a stand here, is an 
egocentric one. That has nothing to do with an unbiased democratic 
functioning and it leads others to wrong conclusions.

Greetings
Jano

Scott Raney schrieb:

> 2014-08-24 6:52 GMT-06:00 <pa.rei[at]gmx.de>:
>
> > das ist wirklich sehr schade. Ich bin überzeugt, dass viel von dem, was 
> > du uns vermittelt hast, wichtiger Teil unserer Theorie wird, nicht 
> > zuletzt der Funktionale Faschismus.
> Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm not a big fan of the term
> "functional fascism" either. It has currency in English too, but
> mostly as a term to describe corporate and other organizations. The
> *essence* of fascism is authoritarianism, with all of its correlated
> features (tribalism/nationalism, prejudice against minorities,
> conventionalism and conformity, etc.) "Functional fascism" is the
> concept that you can have some aspects of authoritarianism without the
> others. History, and the psychological research, shows that this is
> simply not true: Allowing any of these qualities to dominate in an
> organization leads the authoritarians in the population to activate
> and start pushing for the others.
>
> The preventative for "functional fascism" is the same as for regular 
> fascism:
>
> 1) Distribute decisionmaking to all of the population (i.e., direct
> democracy). This prevents authoritarians, who are a minority of the
> population but also the minority most motivated to participate in
> public policy decisions, from pushing their agenda through.
>
> 2) Reduce the level of fear, particularly fear of resource scarcity.
> We all have an authoritarian mode. In some people it's almost always
> on, but in others it has to be "activated". Fear is that activator.
> One of the flags for posts in the system must therefore be a
> "fearmongering" flag to mark those contributions whose primary purpose
> is to activate the authoritarian mode, which will allow people to
> filter those out. This will help them to make rational decisions.
>
> 3) Accept dissent, and assume that decisions will not be reached
> through consensus. As I said last time, up to 25% of the population
> will simply make irrational decisions because they operate in
> authoritarian mode most or all of the time (Altemeyer's book has some
> good examples of this, but this is one of core findings in all the
> other research on authoritarian behavior too). This means any
> decision rule that requires large supermajorities will simply fail to
> work with the general population. The main advantage of "consensus"
> is that it makes laws much easier to enforce because they will more
> likely be perceived as being "moral" by the population (that
> perception being 5 times more powerful a motivator than the risk of
> getting caught is). But fortunately as it turns out authoritarians
> are just more likely to follow laws (or orders) even if they consider
> them to be immoral, so we don't actually lose much by because we can
> assume that most of them will still follow a law even if they voted
> against it.
> Regards,
> Scott