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- From: Craig Simon <gitis AT bellsouth.net>
- To: marc <marc AT merkstduwas.de>, Metagov <start AT metagovernment.org>, Metagovernment Project <start AT metagovernment.org>
- Cc: Piraten AG Meinungsfindungstool <ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
- Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians
- Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 06:04:58 -0700
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Thanks for including the AmericanQuorum ranked choice straw poll project in your list. My request is that you reframe its listing as the Indaba Application Network (indaba.org). That is the overarching container for AmericanQuorum and several related projects, including Sygnol, ChoiceRanker, and WeVote.
On Saturday, July 5, 2014 7:26 AM, marc <marc AT merkstduwas.de> wrote:
Hi Mike,
That is a very good idea!
In the following I would like to refer to current approaches regarding your
list (http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Overplan/soc/des-22) as "designs".
We at AG MFT currently prepare a questionnaire to follow up with a survey
where any of this designs could give their feedback in a quite structured
form.
For this purpose we are customizing an existing tool called "PM Delta" to
contain our specific set of questions. This tool is able to analyse the
survey and provide some sophisticated reports.
To be honest, til now we just thought about rough categorizations of the
designs, but maybe we could enhance this with a structure that makes it
easier to compare the different overplans? But for the beginning we think it
might be easier to give specific categories to choose from.
Maybe we could proceed as following:
(1) AG MFT is close to finish a first draft of the questionary for the
survey.
(2) As soon as we have completed our proposal, we are going to put it for
discussion on the metagov list. Here we could shape the categories and
questions together.
(3) After gaining a specific degree of agreement, we try to get as many
designs as possible to participate.
(4) Then we analyse this with PM Delta. The outcome of the analysis should
be a better understanding of how the different designs are related to each
other. How big or small the common ground is, to build upon. What are the
aspects that separate and connect us.
(5) Then we focus on the things that connect us rather than separate us!
What do you think?
Cheers
Marc
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Allan
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:54 AM
To: Metagov
Subject: [MG] The way forward according to technicians
Here's a list of 77 technical designs for participatory democracy.
These are all of the novel (or radical) practices, techniques, tools,
systems and other facilities that we know of (please add any that are
missing): http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Overplan/soc/des-22
I was thinking we could ask each of the designers, "By what steps
could your design advance the field of participatory democracy, or
otherwise achieve an outcome that is beneficial to humanity?" We
could record the answers (the steps they foresee) and then get a feel
for the different possibilities of moving forward.
That's just one idea. I don't mean we should necessarily jump in and
do that right now. I'm more interested in what others think.
--
Michael Allan (a technician)
Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/
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That is a very good idea!
In the following I would like to refer to current approaches regarding your
list (http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Overplan/soc/des-22) as "designs".
We at AG MFT currently prepare a questionnaire to follow up with a survey
where any of this designs could give their feedback in a quite structured
form.
For this purpose we are customizing an existing tool called "PM Delta" to
contain our specific set of questions. This tool is able to analyse the
survey and provide some sophisticated reports.
To be honest, til now we just thought about rough categorizations of the
designs, but maybe we could enhance this with a structure that makes it
easier to compare the different overplans? But for the beginning we think it
might be easier to give specific categories to choose from.
Maybe we could proceed as following:
(1) AG MFT is close to finish a first draft of the questionary for the
survey.
(2) As soon as we have completed our proposal, we are going to put it for
discussion on the metagov list. Here we could shape the categories and
questions together.
(3) After gaining a specific degree of agreement, we try to get as many
designs as possible to participate.
(4) Then we analyse this with PM Delta. The outcome of the analysis should
be a better understanding of how the different designs are related to each
other. How big or small the common ground is, to build upon. What are the
aspects that separate and connect us.
(5) Then we focus on the things that connect us rather than separate us!
What do you think?
Cheers
Marc
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Allan
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:54 AM
To: Metagov
Subject: [MG] The way forward according to technicians
Here's a list of 77 technical designs for participatory democracy.
These are all of the novel (or radical) practices, techniques, tools,
systems and other facilities that we know of (please add any that are
missing): http://metagovernment.org/wiki/Overplan/soc/des-22
I was thinking we could ask each of the designers, "By what steps
could your design advance the field of participatory democracy, or
otherwise achieve an outcome that is beneficial to humanity?" We
could record the answers (the steps they foresee) and then get a feel
for the different possibilities of moving forward.
That's just one idea. I don't mean we should necessarily jump in and
do that right now. I'm more interested in what others think.
--
Michael Allan (a technician)
Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/
_______________________________________________
Start : a mailing list of the Metagovernment project
http://www.metagovernment.org/
Post to the list: Start AT metagovernment.org
Manage subscription:
http://metagovernment.org/mailman/listinfo/start_metagovernment.org
_______________________________________________
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http://www.metagovernment.org/
Post to the list: Start AT metagovernment.org
Manage subscription: http://metagovernment.org/mailman/listinfo/start_metagovernment.org
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians, marc, 05.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians, Craig Simon, 05.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 05.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 06.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 06.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 06.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 07.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 07.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 07.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 07.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 08.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 08.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 07.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 07.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 06.07.2014
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), Michael Allan, 06.07.2014
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] The way forward according to technicians (Marc of Meinungsfindungstool), marc, 06.07.2014
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