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- From: "marc" <marc AT merkstduwas.de>
- To: "Votorola" <votorola AT zelea.com>, "Metagovernment Project" <start AT metagovernment.org>
- Cc: Piraten AG Meinungsfindungstool <ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de>, AG Liquid Democracy <ag-liquid-democracy AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
- Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish
- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:34:09 +0100
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Hi Michael,
You wrote:
Marc and Alex,
Marc said:
B) Why do you do not want to merge Outcast and CDS?
Thank you, I do. We just have to finish clarifying how the merged
platform is going to obtain its users. Again, either we (1) eliminate
network effects and enable the users to range freely across all
platforms, including competitors; or (2) rely on network effects to
force all users onto the single, merged platform.
I am not talking about merging plattforms - there should plenty of them exist. The trick is to make them cooperate by sharing data and enhancing the processes one another.
I am still towards (1) and I don't see any reason not to be. But I
guess we have some basic misunderstanding here.
So let's condense the goal:
a) Let the users freely choose their favorite tooling,
b) while the whole discourse is covered and
c) without any loss of data.
What is the point now?
I agree with (a), but why restrict the user's choice to (b) and (c)?
Suppose user U needs a toolset that covers only part of the discourse,
or part of the data. Why not give U the same freedom as others to
choose according to personal need, or preference? Who would have the
authority to say, "No, that choice is not permitted".
That's not what I wanted to express. The user should not be restricted in any way, but can choose whatever toolset he wants, using whatever data he wants. Even if not any transition between tools might be reasonable in the context of the discourse.
In my honest opinion (a) is already in place today. Everyone is free to use the toolset of his free choice. But one big thing missing now is the availability of the data. When it comes to changing the tools, the move of already entered data is mainly the problem. And to be honest, I don't want to enter the data again, just because I switched the tool, do you?
Therefore (b) and (c) is more the responsibility of the tools to ensure that the user has all the freedom within the discourse and no restrictions at all!
Therefore (b) and (c) are not a restriction to the user! It is quite the contrary, it allows for the freedom of choice!
So let me put it in a slightly different way with keeping the explanation above in mind:
a) Let the users freely choose their favorite tooling,
b) within the context of a discourse
c) and without any loss of data.
Does this make sense to you?
Cheers
marc
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- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] (SMVcon) Developers cooperating withAG Meinungsfindungstool, marc, 08.03.2013
- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 10.03.2013
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- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Pablo Segundo Garcia, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Slash, 10.03.2013
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