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- From: "Paul Nollen" <paul.nollen AT skynet.be>
- To: "Start/Metagov" <start AT metagovernment.org>, "AG Meinungsfindungstool" <ag-meinungsfindungstool AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
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- Subject: Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish
- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:47:25 +0100
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Hi Michel,
Well, not completely I think. There is no reason why people would not organise in parties around some kind of "party program" and try to get people elected. But parties respond always, as any organistion, to the iron law of oligarchy and therefore it is necesssary to keep the ultimate decisive power in the hands of the people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Allan
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:11 PM
To: Start/Metagov ; AG Meinungsfindungstool
Cc: Votorola ; AG Liquid Democracy
Subject: Re: [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish
Hi Paul,
Paul Nollen said:
if we can introduce liquid democracy on the representative level
(legislative level) then the power of the parties is broken.
http://aktivdemokrati.se/manifesto/
Yes, but Aktiv Demokrati will also be broken in the process. It will
no longer be possible for an Aktiv Demokrati candidate to be elected
to the Riksdag. To succeed in taking down the party system, the party
must sacrifice itself completely.
Mike
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- [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Michael Allan, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Alexander Praetorius, 10.03.2013
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- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Dinu Gherman, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [MG] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Paul Nollen, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, marc, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Pablo Segundo Garcia, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Slash, 10.03.2013
- Re: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Helping the Pirate Party to vanish, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax, 11.03.2013
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