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  • From: "marc" <marc AT merkstduwas.de>
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  • Subject: [Ag Meinungsfindungstool] Fw: Vilfredo slow tutorial (one phase at a time)
  • Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:12:14 +0200
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Ahoi,

ich habe mal angefangen bei Vilfredo etwas mitzuspielen. Mal gucken wie das Tool funktioniert!

Mach doch auch mit:

You can find the question here:
http://vilfredo.org/viewquestion.php?q=126&room=Vilfredo

Here you can find an automatic analysis of the generation:
http://vilfredo.org/vg.php?q=126&g=1&room=Vilfredo


Cheers
marc

-----Original Message----- From: Pietro Speroni di Fenizio
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:04 PM
To: marc
Cc: Ed Pastore
Subject: Vilfredo slow tutorial (one phase at a time)

Hi Marc,
Unfortunately I cannot post on metagovernment from the iPad.

You remember we spoke about Vilfredo some time ago. Your group was intested in understanding how it was working. Shortly after I started a question on Vilfredo to give a sense of how it was working. As I told you the system goes through generations, and each generation passes from a proposing phase to a writing phase. And then back to a proposing phase. So we just now passed from generation 1 to generation 2. Out of 9 proposals 4 made it into the pareto front.

Please see my recent tweets on @pietrosperoni for some details.

10 people voted. But from the graph you can see there was a general agreement on which proposals where good. (if 10 people voted randomly the pareto front from 9 objects would be much wider, about all of them woud be inside).

You can find the question here:

http://vilfredo.org/viewquestion.php?q=126&room=Vilfredo

Here you can find an automatic analysis of the generation:

http://vilfredo.org/vg.php?q=126&g=1&room=Vilfredo

Proposals presented, who voted for what, which proposals dominate which. And at the end also an analysis of the effect that each user had on the result. This part is rather unusual in this, as usually each participants has an effect on the result. The fact that in this case this is not the case indicates that there is a general agreement over what proposals are good. And gives me hope that Vilfredo might scale a bit more than I thought.

Near each proposal there is a Mutate button. In this way a person can easily take a proposal as a base to modify it and present another idea.

Now all the participants (or anyone who cares) are invited to write new proposals trying to integrate the ideas that have survived. And repropose in another format ideas they believe should not have been eliminated.

Also note that there was one participant, zanna, who was singled out as being a key player. Someone that was responsible for keeping the pareto front wider. So now the system asks him to rewrite a proposal he did not like.

If you could forward this to all the participants in our meeting when I presented Vilfredo, that would be really kind.

Thanks,
Pietro

Ps, for the next days I will be travelling, and thus will not have the possibility to stay a lot (or maybe at all) on the internet


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