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Re: [Int-koordination] [pp-leaders.discussion] Donations for PPI server


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  • From: Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de>
  • To: pp-leaders.discussion AT lists.pp-international.net
  • Cc: Vorstand Piratenpartei Deutschland <Vorstand AT piratenpartei.de>, Internationale Koordination <int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
  • Subject: Re: [Int-koordination] [pp-leaders.discussion] Donations for PPI server
  • Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 02:06:37 +0100
  • List-archive: <https://service.piratenpartei.de/pipermail/int-koordination>
  • List-id: Internationale Koordination <int-koordination.lists.piratenpartei.de>

Dear Mr. Norton!

I just read you post.

I know you think PPI is oblivous. No prob. I will not answer to some
misinformation you just posted. I believe the tech guys from PPI will
answer it.

May I ask on behalf of which member of Pirate Parties International you
are a) speaking and b) working against PPI again?

Misleading the members again? You always tend to be negative. No
positive view? No positive opportunity seen by you?

I feel deeply sorrow for you, that you as (if I have read and remember
wikipedia correctly) the founder of PPI have a deep impact on burying
ideas. Collecting ideas and some of them being profound - if brought up
in a positive way - even excepting other people being equal to you and
not beyond you - they would be excepted. I am sure about it.

But who cares, I'm in another mood. Remembering others who tried to push
the movement and the political ideas.

You are allowed to work against it. No prob.

I remember those gone, like Bojan Kopitar, Jurgen Rateau or Florian
Hufsky. They had had more impact to us than your steady "against" and
"ad hominem".

To put it plain and clear, you might give a complaint to the German
board or whats'o'ever.

As I know the Pirate Party of Germany does not take any of your further
comments seriously. You failed in this as you were not even been able to
give proof to you accusations against members of the board and being
members of PPDE at the latest.

Personally, I would even recommend the PPI board you to be striken of
any ML being "official".

How about hard facts, not you strength in not half information, and
omitting crucial information etc.. Your collections of information ought
to be full of hard facts to be taken seriously. This time may come in
the future as I believe you to be capable of learning like others do.

Who cares.

I deeply believe some members of PPI really do so. You as a person maybe
do not.

BTW: real constructive critics are welcome any time from everyone. As I
believe none of us is a saint and perfect out of its own.

Mr. Norton, do you have a positive message for us all? A vision? How
about some politic impact? Do you stick to changing the world through
statutes, rules of procedures and such basic stuff or political
activities and the idea to influence the world through the latter?

I remember you complaining: about persons being involved, wrong
statutes, wrong rules of procedures etc. This is not the way for the
future in my opinion. I may be wrong but out of my experience you are
wrong on it.

And just for your information, I remember you to be representing some
PPUS as Chair (though there is no formal organisation to our knowledge).

>From that supposed to be existing position your emails will maybe
considered by PPDE in the future only.

Yours faithfully,

Thomas Gaul
as Int. Coord. PPDE




  • Re: [Int-koordination] [pp-leaders.discussion] Donations for PPI server, Thomas Gaul, 10.03.2015

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