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- From: Thomas Gaul <thomas.gaul AT piratenpartei.de>
- To: Internationale Koordination <int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de>
- Subject: [Int-koordination] Fwd: [pp-eu] open letter to Amelia [was: Introductions]
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:45:21 +0100
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Betreff: [pp-eu] open letter to Amelia [was: Introductions]
Datum: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 00:24:51 +0100
Von: Aram Gurekian <aramgk AT gmail.com>
Antwort an: EU Election coordination group
<pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>
An: amelia.andersdotter AT piratpartiet.se, EU Election coordination group
<pp-eu AT lists.pp-international.net>
Kopie (CC): Lista di discussione affari internazionali
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Dear Amelia,
activism at a local level is very worthy, fundamental and much needed, but
we (as a movement, not as individuals) need to keep our european PP network
operational and alive as well.
It's perfectly fine if you choose the first one, the problem is that you
can't ignore your role in the PP-EU as Chairperson.
You can't substantially say PP-EU is useless and at the same time be its
Chairperson.
PP-EU needs impulse, if it thrives all its members (and even local
activities) can benefit from it.
There are things that can be done better together (take the Stop TTIP
campaign as an example).
PP-EU is first of all a network, and bureaucracy is an unfortunate
requirement, not the goal.
Do we need PP-EU to network? No, but PP-EU could make things easier, and it
doesn't seem wise to develop parallel networks now that PP-EU has been
created.
Are we suggesting a top-down approach? No, but all these bottom-up
movements need to create meeting points, share their experience and
coordinate on common goals.
Bureaucracy unfortunately is needed in order to comply to some "external
world" rules.
And according to the Statutes, it doesn't look like the Chairperson's role
is political leadership.
Political functions lie mainly in the Council.
The biggest part of PP-EU's bureaucracy lies in the Board functions,
together with representative functions.
So it is no surprise you have seen too much bureaucracy, especially because
we are still in the startup phase.
In general, if you hate bureaucracy applying for the Board is not a good
choice.
(some things can be delegated though, as Samir suggested)
We don't like something in our organization? We can try to change it.
We can even decide to disband, but it should be a collective decision, not
something that happens silently because the Board members feel disheartened.
We (PP-IT) therefore ask you: do you want to renew your commitment to PP-EU
and confirm your role as the Chairperson, or could it be better to step
back?
Best regards,
Aram - International Coordinator for PP-IT
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <
amelia.andersdotter AT piratpartiet.se> wrote:
> Dear Jens,
>
> It is very simple: the EU elections went poorly. We missed out on seats
> in Sweden, Germany and the Czech Republic.
>
> The local activities of many of the parties are not working well. This
> is definitely the case in Germany and Sweden, and in the Czech Republic
> where the local support is sound, it is not due to European pirates
> frequenting their annual congresses or my ambition to keep in touch with
> the Czech pirates in the previous legislature, but because they have
> created local relevance for a Pirate Party. I can sorely see that a
> European level layer of bureaucracy is going to fix this problem, for if
> this were the case, PPSE having two members in the European Parliament
> in the previous legislature would have helped us overcome such challenges.
>
> As a chairperson, I interpret my task to be political leadership, not
> bureaucratic dillydallying. I do this by trying to engage people in my
> local constituency in activities that are simple and useful: ensuring
> competition in the local city network, finding ways of helping citizens
> understand how to engage from their locality with the EU copyright
> reform, and emphasizing to municipalities and labour union
> representatives in Sweden how datenschutz reform is an asset - not a
> problem - for them. I am pleased that this is working out well. It turns
> out there is actually a pressing need in our communities for insightful
> commentary on democratic and human rights values and how this
> interconnects with technical standards, technical decisions, legal
> decisions and policy making.
>
> best regards,
>
> Amelia
>
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