Re: [Int-koordination] Report on the General Assembly of the Danish Pirate Party (25 Jan 2014)

["s.hansen" <s.hansen AT mail.de>]

Hi Martina et all,

sind @Monoopool und Gefion Mitleser dieser Liste? Wenn ja: Bitte melden ;-))

Hinsichtlich der internationalen Verbindungen der PPDK habe ich mich vertan, sorry. Die PPDK ist zwar (sogar Gründungs-) Mitglied der PPI, hat aber mit der PPEU noch überhaupt nichts zu tun gehabt (Hatte ich irgendwo mal anders gelesen).

Ich zitiere mal den Ole:

"As for international organisations the Pirate Party of Denmark is a founding member of PPI. (I was there, the founding meeting was horribly organised. I tried my best to keep the Swedish delegation from walking out, but ultimately failed. If it was not for a volcano in Iceland, other people would have come for the Swedish delegation.) We are not a member of PPEU, and have not attended any of their meetings."

Mit den besten orangen Grüßen, 

St3fan, @st3fanhans3n

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------

Von: Martina Pöser

Datum:29.01.2014 18:23 (GMT+01:00)

An: int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de

Betreff: Re: [Int-koordination] Report on the General Assembly of the Danish Pirate Party (25 Jan 2014)

Moin Stefan,

danke für den großartigen und ausführlichen Bericht! Magst Du daraus auch noch einen Blog-Artikel für die deutsche Piratenpartei (mit Dirk @monoopool absprechen) oder auf Englisch für die Pirate Times (sprich mal Gefion an) machen?

Da es die PPEU noch nicht gibt, können die aber dort auch noch nicht Mitglied sein udn meines Wissens haben die die Satzung und das Manifesto auch weder unterschrieben noch ratifiziert. Oder haben die das bei der GA gemacht? Dort beschlossen der PPEU beizutreten?

Nun, ich hoffe, dass die erneuerte Piratenpartei einen anderen Kurs als die Internetpartei einschlagen wird und dann auch wieder "CEEP-kompatibel" ist...

LG, Martina

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von:	Stefan Hansen <s.hansen AT mail.de>
Gesendet:	Mi 29.01.2014 17:57
Betreff:	[Int-koordination] Report on the General Assembly of the Danish Pirate Party (25 Jan 2014)
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An:	Int-koordination AT lists.piratenpartei.de; 
> Dear all,
> 
>  
> regarding the General Assembly of the Danish Pirate Party 
> (http://www.piratpartiet.dk <http://www.piratpartiet.dk> , 
> https://www.facebook.com/piratpartietdk), held on 25 Jan 2014 , 
> 
>  
> I uploaded to the following location: 
> https://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Benutzer:St3fanhans3n/Dok/PPDK/
> 
>  
> a)       the Protocol and
> 
>  
> b)      the results of the election (with some short Presentations of the 
> candidates for the Board)
> 
>  
>  
> tl;dr:
> 
> The new Board members for the Danish Pirate Party are:
> 
>  
> Chairman: 
> 
> Rolf Bjerre, http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/979 
> <http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/979> 
> 
>  
> Deputy Chairman: 
> 
> Kristian (no url or description)
> 
>  
> Treasurer:
> 
> Peter BP
> 
> (brief summary: 34 years old, residing in Lyngby. Engineering students. Prev. 
> Treasurer of, inter alia, North Zealand Astronomy Association, and has some 
> board experience from other associations. Political moderately liberal with a 
> focus on environment, energy reform, drug reform, entitlement reform icw. 
> copyright and patent privileges and tax reform
> 
>  
> Assessors
> 
> Kristiangk        : http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/977 
> <http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/977> 
> 
> osh_DK3          : (Ole Husgaard  , no url)
> 
> Dina                : http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/976 
> <http://www.piratpartiet.dk/node/976> 
> 
>  
> The election of a new board was necessary after one board member left as a 
> result of “internal struggles” and another Board Member moved to the USA.
> 
>  
> It is not easy to find out entirely what these internal struggles were.
> 
> Ole Husgaard, member of the Danish Pirate Party, tried to explain in an email: 
> “The internal struggles have mostly been due to one person who got elected on 
> our party board: Emil Kirkegaard. IMHO he has been reckless in trying to get 
> power in the party, and changing our policies to something else, and 
> fortunately almost all other party members see this now. In particular I think 
> he committed political suicide when he sent out a press release only signed by 
> our party, a Neo-Nazi party, and the political branch of an extremist religious 
> organisation:
> 
> http://www.piratpartiet.dk/Aabent_brev_til_Margrethe_Vestager 
> <http://www.piratpartiet.dk/Aabent_brev_til_Margrethe_Vestager> “
> 
>  
> During the General Assembly it was briefly discussed whether it’s possible to 
> strengthen or even “restart” the Party within Denmark. Ideas for moving the 
> Pirate Main Office from the town of Assens (Fyn) to the city of Copenhagen 
> (Seeland) were discussed, but no decisions were made or planned.
> 
>  
> The Danish Pirate Party has got less than 500 members and is member of the PPEU 
> and PPI. The General Assembly on Saturday was held by IRC and in Danish, which 
> was of course difficult to follow :-). They don’t seem to work much with 
> Mumble. From my point of view it’ll be tough for them to start playing an 
> important role within the Danish Political System. I will continue informing 
> you on further news of the Danish Pirate Party.
> 
>  
> Please don’t hesitate me for any questions.
> 
>  
>  
> With best regards,
> 
> Stefan @st3fanhans3n
> 
>  
> (With the text below I try to describe the problems and what the internal 
> struggles are from my little insight I got – and which also lets me guess: The 
> probability that the Pirate Party of Denmark could possibly (and successfully) 
> support the CEEP, unfortunately tends to Zero. I hope the Pirate Party of 
> Denmark can start a new and more successful episode with the new board they 
> just elected.)
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Reading about the problems within the Danish Pirate Party 3 web-pages seem to 
> touch a bit of the struggle in the last year:
> 
>  
> a)      
> http://www.denfri.dk/2013/10/nar-man-raekker-piratpartiet-en-lillefinger/#.UukcP
> 7TPWlc 
> <http://www.denfri.dk/2013/10/nar-man-raekker-piratpartiet-en-lillefinger/#.Uukc
> P7TPWlc> 
> 
> (English translation: 
> http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denfri.dk
> %2F2013%2F10%2Fnar-man-raekker-piratpartiet-en-lillefinger%2F%23.UukcP7TPWlc&san
> dbox=1 
> <http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2F
> www.denfri.dk%2F2013%2F10%2Fnar-man-raekker-piratpartiet-en-lillefinger%2F%23.Uu
> kcP7TPWlc&amp;sandbox=1> ) 
> 
>  
> b)      http://projektantifa.dk/nyheder/article/nazisympatier-i-piratpartiet 
> <http://projektantifa.dk/nyheder/article/nazisympatier-i-piratpartiet> 
> 
> (English translation: 
> http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fprojektantifa
> .dk%2Fnyheder%2Farticle%2Fnazisympatier-i-piratpartiet&sandbox=1 
> <http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2F
> projektantifa.dk%2Fnyheder%2Farticle%2Fnazisympatier-i-piratpartiet&amp;sandbox=
> 1> ) 
> 
>  
> c)      http://www.internetpartiet.nu/Nyheder/piratpartiet-og-internetpartiet 
> <http://www.internetpartiet.nu/Nyheder/piratpartiet-og-internetpartiet> 
> 
> (English translation: 
> http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.i
> nternetpartiet.nu%2FNyheder%2Fpiratpartiet-og-internetpartiet 
> <http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;u=h
> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.internetpartiet.nu%2FNyheder%2Fpiratpartiet-og-internetpartiet> 
> )
> 
>  
> Following a) it’s being said: 
> 
> “But ... the Pirate Party is practically dead. On Facebook, they make almost 
> nothing more than share links from the Internet Party (IP). Internet Party has 
> jumped out of the Pirate Party, but because they are not as popular as they 
> simply use the Pirate Party as a platform for their PR.”
> 
>  
>  
> Further it’s being written:  
> 
>  
> “And what is Internet Party (which spreads news via Pirate Party) for? 
> According to their website , among other things:
> 
>  
>    […]
> 
>     Resignation of EU
> 
>     Closure of equality ministry […]
> 
>     Only take immigrants into which produce profits (ie no war refugees) and 
> has an IQ of 100, "which is the average for the Danes (and other whites)."
> 
>    […]
> 
>     Elimination of racism paragraph
> 
>     […]”
> 
>  
> A quick scan through these list makes one thing clear: The Pirate Party is, 
> indeed, almost dead and the “Internet Party” of Denmark is far, far away from 
> being a Party somewhat close to a typical Pirate Party we all know here in 
> Europe.
> 
>  
> What really disturbs me is the web page (b). Projekt Antifa of Denmark writes 
> „Nazi sympathies in the Pirate Party“ (news from last summer) and Emil 
> Kirkegaard (aforementioned from Ole) comes really bad into play. In the last 
> year, especially in summer, it must have been very hard for the members of the 
> Pirate Party of Denmark.
> 
>  
> The third page (c) is is written by Emil Kirkegaard as a member of the (IMHO 
> politically far right) Internet Party of Denmark. He responds to the article 
> (b), in which  he clarifies some of the statements like this: 
> 
>  
> “The Pirate Party is dead in the sense that there is no working actively to 
> lead the party to political victory, besides pirate Rolf Bjerrre [comment: 
> current Chairman] which runs in municipal elections in Copenhagen.”
> 
>  
> “The Pirate Party is not dead, in the sense that the party has a Facebook Page 
> to share relevant news and creates contacts among people with common interest 
> for pirate parties' assets in Denmark: 1) the copyright and patent reform, 2) 
> resistance monitoring and enhanced privacy (Pirate Party policy) .”
> 
>

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