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- From: Martina Pöser <martina.poeser AT bremen.piratenpartei.de>
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- Subject: [Int-koordination] WG: [PP-EU.programme] CEEP - Patents - partial veto
- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:12:45 +0100
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Title: WG: [PP-EU.programme] CEEP - Patents - partial veto
FYI: Das erste Veto.
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Von: Martina Pöser <martina.poeser AT bremen.piratenpartei.de>
Gesendet: Fr 29.11.2013 10:40
Betreff: Re: [PP-EU.programme] CEEP - Patents - partial veto
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An: pp-eu.programme AT lists.pp-international.net;Dear Aram,
I'm a bit unsure how to take the discussion part at the end. If I do not here anything different from you, I will take this as a veto to both parts and will delete the text from the German and international version of the CEEP. As we need to hand the German version in this week-end, we will have to decide asap.
Best regards,
Martina
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Von: Aram Gurekian <aramgk AT gmail.com>
Gesendet: Fr 29.11.2013 03:24
Betreff: [PP-EU.programme] CEEP - Patents - partial veto
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An: pp-eu.programme AT lists.pp-international.net;Hi all.
@PP-IT we discussed the Patents chapter.
We ask you to delete two parts, by putting our veto on them.
Those sentences are just there to give some context to the Programme, but we think that they undermine the position about patents and we don't agree to them.
1. The first part we ask to delete is the strikethrough text:The information era just emphasized problems that were already in the patent laws.
"As we have transitioned from the industrial to the information age, global patent law has lost touch with the changing world.Patentsnowfunction as a deterrent to innovation rather than as an incentive. The patenting of knowledge in areas like genetics and biotechnology, as well as software, renders it a tangible threat to the future of our society."
Stating that now they function as a deterrent to innovation would imply that previously they worked as an incentive and did not slow innovation.
This is not true, take Watt's engine patent as an example that probably delayed the raise of the industrial age: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/papers/anew01.pdf
2. The second part is the paragraph:
"Rebalancing Patents with the Common GoodPIRATES believe that patents exist to reward the inventors of truly outstanding ideas, not to allow big businesses to stifle competition with an ever-growing tide of trivial and overreaching patents.
We therefore want to halt the continued and increasing abuse of patents."
Since we think that the phrase "PIRATES believe that patents exist to reward the inventors of truly outstanding ideas" is at least debatable and we want to veto it, the concepts that would remain in the paragraph are repeated through the entire chapter and lost their relation with the title anyway.
Therefore we think it would be better to delete that whole short paragraph.
We are open to discussion, of course.
Best regards,
Aram (on behalf of the PP-IT CEEP workgroup)
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